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Dec 8, 2025

This week on The Work Of Wrestling podcast host Tim Kail is joined by friend and fellow pro-wrestling fan John Macy to discuss the massive sale of WB to Netflix. They examine the implications of the deal on AEW's longterm future.

They also discuss John's disappointment with The Smashing Machine, John Cena's heel run,...


Apr 14, 2025

Tim's friend John Macy returns to discuss AEW, WWE, ratings, the shifting landscape of television, what wrestling can do better, and what wrestling is getting right.

And more!

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Dec 19, 2022

Warning: this episode contains descriptions of suicidal ideation and depression.

This week Work Of Wrestling host Tim Kail is joined by longtime listener, occasional contributor, and overall friend of the pod Daniel Lee. 

Topics include:

  • The origin of Daniel's fandom.
  • Explaining your pro-wrestling fandom to people who...


Dec 5, 2022

Work Of Wrestling host, Tim Kail, is joined by the iconic pro-wrestler, podcaster, and comedian Colt Cabana.

Topics include:

  • when Colt first starting thinking of pro-wrestling as an art.
  • why Colt thinks it's harder to be a babyface than a heel.
  • the two Art of Wrestling guests who made Colt nervous.
  • what it's like to...


Sep 19, 2022

This week host Tim Kail is joined by Kayla Fabienne, a writer, teacher, ring announcer, and lover of professional wrestling.

You can read her and others' work on http://thespectacleofexcess.com.

Topics include:

  • the unappreciated role of the ring bell.
  • the difficulty of music cues.
  • the improvisational nature of...